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2.     Draft Minutes of Meeting #391 were unanimously approved as distributed, after a motion by
        Hugh Comfort, seconded by Steve Floyd.

3.      The Faculty Senate Executive Committee Report was presented.  No approval was required.

4.       A. Senate Committee Reports:

            1.      Executive: The next meeting of the Executive Committee will be Tuesday,
                    November 25, 1997, at 12:30 p.m. in Madison Hall 110.

            2.      Faculty and Student Development:  No Report.

            3.      Finance and Resources:  Dr. MacDougall reported the Committee has met and is
                    collecting data on faculty salaries and peer universities.

            4.      Governance and Operations:  No Report

            5.      Personnel:  Dr. Dimopoullos reported the Committee has met and will present a
                    bill to the Executive Committee next week.

            6.      Undergraduate Curriculum:  No Report

            7.      Undergraduate Scholastic Affairs:  No Report

        B.      University Committees:  Dr. Delugach reported the Information Services Advisory
                Committee will meet December 10.  He asked if anyone has information or
                suggestions for the Committee  to please send them to him.

        C.      Officer Reports:

                    1.      Ombudsperson:  No report.

                    2.      President-Elect:  Dr. Delugach reported he attended the ACCUFP meeting in
                            Mobile. He mentioned Hank Sanders, Jim Baker, and Tom Osborne as some
                            of the speakers.   The basic message was that faculty need to be heard in
                            Montgomery and they need to be seen there.  Their presence is important.
                            Articulation, Viability and funding were the basic topics of discussion there.
                            He announced that there will be hearings on December 3 in Montgomery.
                            The University Presidents have been invited to attend but not speak.  They
                            are to be there to answer any questions.  The faculty are encouraged to go.
                            Dr. Delugach will organize an expedition if anyone wishes to attend.

                   3.     President: Dr. Bower read a memorandum from a faculty member regarding
                            administrative duties required of faculty.   He reported on attending a
                            Syllabus Workshop.  Some of the topics of the Workshop were:  Virtual
                            University, A Look Into the Twenty First Century, Asynchronous
                            Conferencing in an Institutional Setting, Alternative Listserv and
                            Exchanging Information--Team Teaching, etc.  He recommended individuals
                            look at Dr. Frazier’s web page.  He will send the URL or link it to the
                            Faculty Senate Homepage.  He mentioned the impressive computer center
                            with over 300 computers at a community college.  He will give a more
                            elaborate report later.

5.     President Franz:
            · Deferred to Gary Smith.

6.      Provost McManus:
            · Dr. McManus briefly discussed the potential for requiring or recommendation computers
            for incoming students.  He reported the universities are going in this direction.  He reported
            he was just at a NASULGC conference in Washington DC where this was a frequent topic.
             He invited input from the faculty to either him or to Harry Delugach or the Information
            Services Committee.

7.      Gary Smith reported the "8 in ‘98" slogan is slightly derailed.  He reported the Education Trust
          Fund has grown by $371M and $100M is available to education.   We have received none.
          We took a 7 and ½ percent cut in 95.  We have decreased to 27% of the funding now.  This
           amounts to a $13 and ½M decrease for us.  The faculty are 18% below in regional salaries
           and staff are 25% below regional averages.  The message this year is that it is our turn.
            There is a two-fold message—1) the new money ($150M growth next year).  We want our
            share, back to the traditional split of 1/3 to us and 2/3 to K-12. 2)The accounting change in
            the retirement system.  In the past the assets were placed on the books at the purchase value
            and let there at book value.  Now the federal government has required a change and the
            assets have to be listed at current market value.  This has caused a sudden jump in the asset
            base from 16B to 18B.  In the past the employee has been required to contribute 5% of the
            annual salary white the state makes up the difference to maintain that needed to pay out at
            retirement.  The match for the past few years has been about 9.66%.  Now the university
            will not have to contribute as much.  The university wants to retain the difference to be used
            appropriately.  The state wants to take that from the budget to do as they wish.   We can
            stop this from happening by being heard in Montgomery.  The legislators respond to money
            and votes.  The UA System alone has from 160,000 to 180,000 members that would make
            a difference if all got involved.  The faculty voices need to be heard loud and often.  Gary
            reported that getting the legislators and senators at home or on their home turf may be even
            more effective than in Montgomery.  They can hide or avoid individuals in Montgomery but it
            is harder to do that here.  Gary reported he had a box in the November 6 Insights asking
            faculty and staff to send their email address if they wish to be included in correspondence.
            We have over 1700 employees and only 150 have signed up.  Gary reported that the
            Chancellor is working on a grass roots initiative by sending a fact sheet with information
            about districts and senators and representatives.  Gary is working on a listing of faculty,
            staff and alumni per district.  He reported we need more than one contact, we need
            continuous contact.
8.      Dr. Bower had worked on a "Sense of the Senate Resolution" on the Retirement System
        Change that he distributed at this time requesting the Faculty Senate look at it and vote on it so
        that it could go forward.  Dr. McCollum moved to adopt the resolution, seconded by Dr.
        Swain.  A friendly amendment to change entities to institutions and in line 21 change must to
        should was made  and the resolution passed 30 in favor, 0 opposed and 1 abstention.
        A request was made to suspend the bylaws in order to allow Dr. Bower to send the resolution
        to Joel Lonergan and his staff and spread it abroad in order to take action.  He was also
        requested to send a copy to Dr. Franz requesting he send it to the Chancellor.  It was also
        requested he send an electronic copy to the Faculty.

9.     President Bower adjourned the meeting at 1:42 p.m. after a motion by Mr. Warren, seconded
        by Dr. Delugach.